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Officials, officers or soldiers so it knows it can do this, violate international law with impunity. it can demonstrate western institutions and norms are. there is will ill the west can do about it. i feel that's a part of the goal. not just to take over ukraine. to show the west all of these things it has built up are nothing more than rhetoric. >> well, that's a goal. it's a goal that is failing miserably for vladimir putin. you talk about syria, meek car, one of the things for some reason people still don't focus on or not are the 2500/3,000 troops david ignacious went of to vis nit syria,...

Executive board member of the initiative retired u.s. army lt. col. alexander vindman. jeremy, let me start with you. we have been talking about it on the sho, we saw it when we had 2500/3,000 troops in syria, what that small group was able to do with u.s. troops. we look back over the last 20 years and what many in the press would call several military failures. you look over the past 20 years and u.s. troops through those trials and tibblations have learned to kill bad guys with ruthless efficiency. we saw nit syria, we were able to hold off the russians, iranians, kill isis, go down the lis...