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Leading member of the armed services committee and he and john mccain are talking to the president and influential people but barry mccaffrey last thursday i believe on your program, brian, warned this just does not make sense. a preemptive strike, first of all, we don't know where all of their newspapers are. and they have mobile launchers. what would then happen is the artillery -- the people within artillery range of the conventional weapons, if not the tactical nuclear weapons of north korea, the retaliation, the instant retaliation could wipe out seoul. we've have 28,500 troops there, and...

Looking for trouble, is escalating tensions with north korea to a dangerous level. i've heard some of your republican colleagues saying it is a good thing we're finally talking tough with north korea. where do you stand on this? >> well, i think -- thank you for having me on, first. i think we need to be very clear yet very firm in how we respond to the madman. in 1949 when we define ened th m perimeter to exclude north korea, and china was upset they attacked south korea afterwards, we have to remember what would happen if this guy pursues territorial aggression. >> even the most basic could ...

Partners in the region to put both diplomatic and economic pressure on the north korean regime to effect change. look, hallie, these are young men and women who live on the front lines of this threat every day. 50,000 u.s. military personnel in japan. 28,500 in south korea. they know all too well this threat. i would say the reception today in japan was one of warmth. but reserve given the threat. hallie? >> kelly, thank you very much live from seoul. i want to head over to chris jansing who is behind us here at the white house. a lot of discussion about this carl vinson group that is headin...

A bind. you either have to back down and lose credibility with our allies and enemy or now we have to follow-throu follow-through. are we going to have a military strike? it's a very dangerous step to take. a very dangerous step to take. >> shepard: because of north korea's abilities with japan and south korea? >> yes. there's more than 10,000 artillery pieces that is aimed at seoul right now. we have 220 million people in south. 28,500 american soldiers in south korea right now. of course, can it be devastating. north korea doesn't have to use a nuclear weapon. artillery alone is dangerous. >...

Of the north. millions and millions of people, 28,500 u.s. troops in south korea. what does the vice president real mean about them getting rid of their nuclear weapons? they've shown no sign of doing that. >> reporter: well, they've shown no sign of backing down from any of the tests or provocations that have defined years under the regime and particularly in the past couple of months, we've seen the series of tests. they're ignoring all of the warnings coming particularly from the u.s. with the vice president in the region today, this is a plan that was -- this was a trip that was long plann...