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For president, but it's not hard to force politicians to take a different position. that's the thing about the tea party. there's no question that ross perot forced the country to take debt more seriously. as a result, president clinton passed an economic plan that was a combination of tax cuts and spending cuts that really reassured the financial markets and put us on a path from a $290 billion debt under president bush, h.w. bush, to a $127 billion surplus at the end of clinton's term. can that happen again? we'll see. under george w. bush, we saw the debt go from $5.7 trillion to he added $...

Both parties to focus attention on the deficits which then turned into surpluses. is there a third way that's brewing here? >> i think it's unclear. one of the things we know is structurally it's very hard to create a third party. to get on the ballot and run a credible campaign for president. it's not hard to force politicians to take a different position. there's no question that ross perot forced the country to take debt and deficit more seriously and as a result president clinton passed an economic plan that was a combination of tax cuts and spending cuts that really reassured the financia...

Ability to be a superpower going forward. >> bob: can someone tell me what it is -- >> greg: lack of confidence. >> bob: excuse me. besides the stimulus package, tell me one thing different that is going on in corporate america today than when george bush was president. >> dana: obamacare. >> eric: taxes. >> bob: obamacare is not in effect. $290 billion of the stimulus for tax cuts. >> eric: they're the highest corporate tax -- >> bob: your right ear doesn't work. get you to go to a doctor. >> andrea: you're shouting in it. >> bob: i'm not shouting. >> andrea: we hear this for an hour every we...

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