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And the other thing that's important to look at is in 2012 in the iowa caucuses when you just look at the number of people, rick santorum there is at 29,839. that's what wins, right? mitt romney, 29,805. that's not many people. there are colleges with 30,000 people in them. this is a relatively small group of people quite conservative. how does that impact the ability of these folks to go on and win generals? >> it winnows the field down and shows you're not just convincing people who are casual voters. they're extremely engaged. not only are you winning them over in the caucuses but you have ...

29,839 for rick santorum. a change of 168. mitt romney gets a change of 210 with a total of 29,805. >> this is why i said from the beginning when it was only an eight vote split, how could you possibly trust that when we're still doing this by the dark ages? maybe we should continue to do it the way in which they do it but people literally write down their vote on a piece of paper. and then they hand it in. is that still the right way to do this now that we're reporting that eight precincts that we might never know. we should add up those totals and see how many votes potentially were in those...

>> we begin this half-hour for you right now, 7:30 on the east coast with a fox news alert. stunning reversal in the results of the iowa caucuses. rick santorum actually beating mitt romney by 34 votes. here are the new totals. 29,805 for romney. 29,839 for santorum. what does this all mean? remember, the original numbers had mitt romney winning by eight that night. but a lot of people were cautious including myself because there were a lot of votes missing quite frankly. >> the good news is that santorum already got his boost by coming from single digits to almost winning and originally that'...

tie. doesn't change the delegate count. mitt romney saying in his statement this, the results from the iowa caucus revealed a virtual tie. i would like to thank the iowa republican party for their careful attention to the caucus process. people might want to talk about that a little bit and recognize rick santorum for his strong performance in the state. great start to defeating president obama in iowa and else where in the general election. he leaves out a big thing which is, really, is he 34 points behind rick santorum and does it matter? let's get to shannon travis in des moines t...

the turn too late. >> and also in politics, newt gingrich is making up some ground you might call it. he is closing the gap the front-runner mitt romney in south carolina. trouble may be brewing, though. his daughters are having to come to his defense after an interview which is scheduled for today is about to go after him from his ex-wife. >> and a rare winter storm that pounded the pacific northwest. it is now heading east. rob is tracking the forecast. where it will go next and how much snow we are actually talking about this morning. don't know if you're a tune or it's been a w...