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Say it didn't do what it did. getting to your other piece, you know, sometimes it feels like we're all going through a type of law school together in this era. you would be one of our voluntary professors i suppose. collusion, conspiracy, criminal hacking and theft, fraud fraud against the units, foreign campaign contributions are all felonies that relate to what has been alleged in 2016. walk us through your point about what trims constitute collusion. >> well, first the term collusion here is being used casually. what it's really referring to i'll remind you is a conspiracy to break federal ...

Confusion over collusion? >> well, i think it's perfectly clear in federal law, and in fact i've got the statute with me. it's title 52, section 30121, that says it is a crime to solicit or accept anything of value from a foreign national in order to influence the outcome of a federal election. it's a longer section. i'm taking a sentence here and there, but that's the outcome. that's what it means. you can't accept or solicit a cash contribution or a thing of value from a foreign national in any way related to a federal, state, or local election. that's clearly a crime. and elsewhere in the c...

U.s. code 30121 i believe is what it is that says if you're a foreign national, you cannot offer or donate money or a thing of value to an election campaign. if you are working for that campaign, you cannot solicit, accept or receive. solicit, accept or receive. and when you think about this, as embarrassing as this episode was, this was not instigated by the trump people. that e-mail came from the russians and they sat down with them for 20 minutes and left. so i think in terms of criminal exposure directly for that meeting, there's not much chance of that. but the real question is in additio...

Christopher steele. according to fox news legal analyst gregg jarrett, who has into allg a deep dive of this, two crimes may have been committed in this instance. 52 u.s. code 30121, which says it is illegal to make a payment donation or trade anything of value with the foreign national in connection with any kind of election and america. remember, steele is a former british spy. he was only hired by fusion gps wants hillary clinton started picking up the tab for the trump opposition research, not before. gregg jarrett also points out 52 usc 30101, it makes it a crime to file a false or mislea...

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