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13 individual appropriation's bills, two-thirds of the republican said we are not voting for this, we think it stinks, those republicans plus 65 who voted for it now have a chance in the house and the republicans in the senate to say, okay, you want to spend x out of that $320 billion, we don't want to spend that much. they have the ability and fights over the individual spending bills, we basically got rid of the caps and we said we are not going to have a needless fight over the debt ceiling until 2021 but we will absolutely have a fight over each and every one of those spending bills. chris...

You only got 65 of 197 republicans in the house to vote for this, obviously they are all in fear of trump and his political power, but you can see the demise of instinct that push them to power in the first place which was about smaller government. apparently that's gone. >> constituency for that is much smaller than it turned out to be. [laughter] chris: let me ask you about that, karl, conservatives used to talk about the president you worked for george w. bush, bush 43 and say he was a big government conservative, where does donald trump fit on that scale? >> well, i'm not certain there's a...

More, now we have to fight over 13 individual appropriation's bills, two-thirds of the republican said we are not voting for this, we think it stinks, those republicans plus 65 who voted for it now have a chance in the house and the republicans in the senate to say, okay, you want to spend x out of that $320 billion, we don't want to spend that much. they have the ability and fights over the individual spending bills, we basically got rid of the caps and we said we are not going to have a needless fight over the debt ceiling until 2021 but we will absolutely have a fight over each and every on...

Front. you only got 65 of 197 republicans in the house to vote for this, obviously they are all in fear of trump and his political power, but you can see the demise of instinct that push them to power in the first place which was about smaller government. apparently that's gone. >> constituency for that is much smaller than it turned out to be. [laughter] chris: let me ask you about that, karl, conservatives used to talk about the president you worked for george w. bush, bush 43 and say he was a big government conservative, where does donald trump fit on that scale? >> well, i'm not certain th...

13 individual appropriation's bills, two-thirds of the republican said we are not voting for this, we think it stinks, those republicans plus 65 who voted for it now have a chance in the house and the republicans in the senate to say, okay, you want to spend x out of that $320 billion, we don't want to spend that much. they have the ability and fights over the individual spending bills, we basically got rid of the caps and we said we are not going to have a needless fight over the debt ceiling until 2021 but we will absolutely have a fight over each and every one of those spending bills. chris...