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Back for a final vote. we're optimistic that we'll pass it out of the house today. >> steve rattner, congressman. how do you know that it drives down premiums given that it hasn't been scored by the cbo. >> i'll be glad to address that if you would like, steve. >> let me make it a two-part question. that's one. >> sure. >> the second one is with respect to the pre-existing conditions, they would go into a high-risk pool. there are estimates that the high-risk pool would need $330 billion to fund that. $130 billion was in before. you added $8 billion yesterday. that leaves $192 billion shortfal...

Pre-existing conditions. by one estimate, you would needed 330 billion over the next ten years to subsidize this. the new bill has had in it, $130 billion. that could also have been used for other stuff. you see that blue sliver at the bottom? that's the $8 billion. >> a little short. >> a little short. the idea of $8 billion on $330 billion changed votes is hard to imagine. >> here is what i don't understand -- so many things i don't understand about my party's political calculations here, it's mind-boggling. one of the things i don't understand about donald trump's political calculation is b...

$8 billion -- it seems a lot of money, but it's over five years, which is $1.5 billion a year. they say -- i think it is a band-aid on this bill. so a week ago or two weeks ago, this bill would never pass. they put the band-aid on it and said we're going to have this subsidy. we're going to write a check from the federal government to cover those people, but nobody believes the $1.5 billion a year will cover all the people in this country's health insurance costs, medicines, pills, doctors, hospitalization. all of that is going to be covered for about $1.5 billion a year. nobody believes that....

Offer people with pre-existing conditions insurance. but the new bill says that they can then charge whatever it takes to cover those people. so if you have very serious cancer by one estimate, you could literally be paying $140,000 for health insurance. >> $140,000? >> if you have very serious cancer. if you're pregnant, i think it's something like $20,000 extra for health insurance. they're not technically lying, but it's all but a lie. >> so then the question becomes -- remember the bill moved in that way. the house freedom caucus was very focused on the core regulatory constraints on healt...

So if you have very serious cancer by one estimate, you could literally be paying $140,000 for health insurance. >> $140,000? >> if you have very serious cancer. if you're pregnant, i think it's something like $20,000 extra for health insurance. they're not technically lying, but it's all but a lie. >> so then the question becomes -- remember the bill moved in that way. the house freedom caucus was very focused on the core regulatory constraints on health plans, that they wanted the states to be able to waive out of. they got the the moderates then said now you're gutting pre-existing conditio...