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We might give back to the states for the cuts they might experience in medicare, if we do it, we'll do it across the board and that begs the question, if it is built on $500 billion in cuts to medicare, and you give back some to every, single state so it doesn't hurt them so badly, how will you pay for it? >> well, you are right. bret never got a straight answer, it is not just louisiana which he said, oh, yeah, we'll have the special treatment for louisiana and special treatment for hawaii, and. martha: natural disaster -- >> and what about connecticut, and massachusetts and vermont? i mean, ...

Medicare solvency and also offset the cost of the new program. that is double counting. so when you take a look at all of this, and strip out the double counting and what i would call these gimmicks, the full ten-year cost of the bill has a $460 billion deficit and the second ten-year cost of the bill has a $1.4 trillion deficit. the most cynical gimmick the bill is something that we all agree on, we don't believe we should cut doctors 21% next year. we have stopped the cuts from occurring every year for the last seven years. we call this here in washington the doc fix. the doc fix according t...

Bill. let's take a listen to him. >> this has a $460 billion deficit. and $1.4 trillion deficit. most cynical gym nick this bill is something we agree on. we don't think we should cut doctors 1% next year. we stopped those cuts from occurring every year for the last seven years. the doc fix costs $371 billion. it was in the first iteration of all these bills. but because it was a big price tag it made it look like a deficit. that provision was taken out and it's been going on in stand-alone legislation. ignoring these costs does not remove them from the backs of taxpayers. hiding spending does...