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He was even losing part of his base. he's not going to accomplish anything more with another shutdown after the failed 35-day shutdown. so he doesn't really have a choice, but i don't know if he understands that. >> with every shutdown, it seems like he gets less, right? but seriously, frank, this is according to a democratic source. $1.375 billion for physical barrier, for bollard fencing. the real test of the president is, you know, he's down at the border campaigning right now. what's he saying, and how are people going to react? and is he going to sign this agreement? >> well, i mean he ma...

Because in the past, as we know, the president's changed his mind only to throw things into disarray on capitol hill. will he do that again? we just don't know yet. >> okay. so, manu, you've been covering this. can we talk about this? you said it's $1.375 billion. he wanted $5 billion, correct? >> reporter: that's right. >> but didn't he have better deals on the table before this? so technically he's going in reverse as to the amount of money and what he's actually getting. i don't understand the art of this deal. >> reporter: yeah, there are a lot of questions still. we have not seen the deta...

Like he gets less, right? but seriously, frank, this is according to a democratic source. $1.375 billion for physical barrier, for bollard fencing. the real test of the president is, you know, he's down at the border campaigning right now. what's he saying, and how are people going to react? and is he going to sign this agreement? >> well, i mean he may sign the agreement and then as kaitlan was saying, he could turn around and do an emergency declaration of some kind although that would put him at great odds with his own party. i think what's going to be interesting is watching him describe i...

He got less. why? >> house democrats now control members of congress, and that changes how negotiations work. there is a reason why $1.375 billion was the maximum republicans could get. it just depends on how the president looks at this and how his staff presents it to him. on detention beds, which have become an enormous issue and has been a very divisive issue between the two parties for years and definitely in the last couple of months, you can see they made some headway than they thought they were going to get. interior enforcement, which for immigration hawks is a much bigger issue for th...

The deal includes just $1.3 billion for just 55 miles of a barrier along the border. keep in mind that's less than what the president rejected last year before triggering the longest shutdown in u.s. history. the deal also includes $1.7 billion, an increase in overall dhs spending before negotiators say it should be enough for mr. trump, but he's already facing pressure from party hard liners and key fox news commentators as well. for more let's bring in sunlin. are you confident or are they confident they could get it through both houses? >> i think lawmakers and the negotiators specifically,...