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>> a co-chair. so two senior executives. >> right. >> who have a lot to do with how much money sony makes, they are making remarks about the president, they are. >> about him making movies with a black guy. >> making remarks about a hired help. >> what's your question? >> don't you think that has the impact on the bottom lean of a public corporation? don't you think that has reflection on how they can do their job? >> i think it does, i think there are people shape whack americans are saying, they are power. if people feel comfortable making racially insensitive remarks and childish pet lent r...

American corporation and the president is jumping in, saying, how can we help you, north korea? how can we help you destroy careers? how can we help you destroy corporations? >> i guess it is more difficult to see what legitimate value there is. >> over a movie. not over what a governor did or what a congressman did, while he was congressman. >> this is stolen material. as our lawyers are telling our reporters at "the new york times," we are not to open these e-mails, we are not to actively look at them. we are only allowed to report on what has been out there. because this is stolen material....

Height with us and with us former white house press secretary for president obama, robert gibbs, also msnbc contributor and editor of "the fix" of the washington post. let me first ask you, robert gibbs. >> sure. >> mica and i went to the white house last night and, you know, somebody asked how long will you go to the white house christmas parties? i said until you run out of kid. last night, joey was there, i had jack. all this other stuff how does the president, how does the president and the first lady, i'm serious, stands there and smile ten nights in a row. >> right. >> five hours a night...

The president understand it. he said, our children apologize for us the rest of our lives, and that do. what do you think about jeb bush jumping in. >> i think the announcement is pretty significant. i think in some ways he sped up the process to slow it down. i think we understood a lot of people, including jepp, were thinking about itch maybe not knowing exactly how serious he was about thinking about it. now he said he's very serious about it and like i said, i think he sort of paused in saying, hey, i am doing the due diligence. this is a big deal. it's important to me. hold on until you h...

There are a lot of billionaires that can write for a presidential campaign. i'm sure he has been a dallas cowboys fan for a long time. if you are a dallas cowboys fan, it certainly helps to be in that box filled with billionnaires, coming up, jeb bush may be running for president and casey hutton joins us with her reporting on jeb's potential gop opponents. >> that will be very interesting. stay with us. h