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The trump official who disgraced himself in that hearing was kevin mathe commissioner of customs and border protection. >> last week the justice department reported that the office of refugee resettlement received 4,556 allegations of sexual abuse or harassment of immigrant children in their custody between october of 2014 and july of 2018. 178 of these allegations were against staff, of shelters where the children were place. i understand that hhs personnel of course do not fall under your direct authority. but your agency is nonetheless handing over these children to hhs. do you believe that...

Office of refugee resettlement received 4,556 allegations of sexual abuse or harassment of immigrant children in their custody between october of 2014 and july of 2018. 178 of these allegations were against staff, of shelters where the children were place. i understand that hhs personnel of course do not fall under your direct authority. but your agency is nonetheless handing over these children to hhs. do you believe that you have any duty to raise a flag of concern that when you transfer these children to another agency that they may not be safe? >> i believe that's the duty of the managemen...

Could be a 400-pound guy in new jersey. no, the united states government knows how to shut things done and they're actually doing it. that's a big positive to me. >> no, look, we don't know how involved the president was in that specific operation. that's a thing that could have gone through like some sort of mid-level situation, if it's through a contractor, that's usually the case. but the fact that we can do it, it's a big part of this whole thing. >> ben's haircut is a big deal, too. you got a new haircut. he doesn't like when i bring up haircuts on the show. a little sensitive about it. >...