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Revelations in this "new york times" op-ed is members of the president's own cabinet discussed removing him from office. there were whispers was the word used. removing the president under the 25th amendment. this anonymous senior trump administration official writes, given the instability many witnessed, there were early whispers within the cabinet of invoking the 25th amendment, which could start a complex process for removing the president, but no one wanted to precipitate a constitutional crisis. president trump tweeted a response to the op-ed with one word, all caps, treason? but what exa...

1, 2, 3, it's the 4th section that's key in the process of removing a president. can you spell that out for us? >> this is kind of new territory. the 4th section of 25th amendment, we have never used it before, so this would be fully new territory. and this is relatively recent. so this was only ratified in 1967. so this is really the section that is for if a president is incapacitated or can't carry out his or her duties. this gives us a procedure for the vice president and members of the cabinet to really alert congress, to say -- to give a declaration saying that the president can't fulfill...