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Said, "enforce the law as written." that was my comment to the irs. i wasn't the only one who did that. i know there were some organizations in washington who are pushing in that direction, but most people are pushing in a direction of saying, let us continue to abuse this and let us decide how we should define who is allowed to abuse the 501c4 status. and the crazy thing about it, ari, the only reason to use 501c4 status is to hide your donors. if you could not use 501c4 status for your political activities, you could set up another way of doing it that would financially work out exactly the ...

501c4 status. and the crazy thing about it, ari, the only reason to use 501c4 status is to hide your donors. if you could not use 501c4 status for your political activities, you could set up another way of doing it that would financially work out exactly the same way, but it would reveal who's actually giving you the money, and so that's pretty much what it's about. you know, they've got 50 years now of interpreting this the wrong way, a 50-year-old regulation, which changed the meaning of the law from exclusively to primarily, and i think it's been very hard for the obama administration to ba...

He told congress this last month, knowing he had labeled our own james rosen a criminal. >> with regard to the potential prosecution of the press of disclosure of material that is not something i've ever been involved in or heard of or would think be a wise policy. >> megyn: that is not all. we now know that the former irs commissioner gave testimony that was not true in 2012 about the irs targeting conservative groups? >> what has been happening has been the normal back and forth that happens with the irs. there is absolutely no targeting. this is kind of back and forth when people apply for ...

Things are heating up and someone with no a xe to grinned. look, i was a target of the irs in 20 where are 9 and 11 because i ran a successful 501c4 and they came after me and the donors. they attack individuals for their political beliefs in light of that fact, this is attacking groups seeking 501c4 status. we know it is wrong because they admitted to wrongdoing. what was the intent for political targeting? that has yet to be fully flushed out. and as always fls washington directing it? we know two u.s. senators wrote letters asking for the irs to target the groups. certainly the president sp...

Anyone think he was there for coffee, tea and crumpets? >> easter egg rolls. >> yes, that's what he said. bill, tell your story. >> i am the founder of the west jersey tea party and in 2010, august of 2010 we filed for 501c4 status. and it wasn't until january of 2012 we received our letter. like many of the people in this audience, we had the same intrusive questions being asked of us. such as the communications between our members -- members of congress, our representatives at the state house as well as the qualifications of the people we brought in, whether or not they could speak on the to...