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Post-meet billionaire. >> yes, i call it the first fake meat millionaire. he is invested, like he did -- you go back before president obama is elected, al gore came out with a list of green tech firms and companies that people should invest in. obama puts $2.514 billion of those 14 firms get federal money from obama. fast forward, this year, al gore invests in the fake meat substitute, made up 22 and ingredients including bamboo and potato starch, and now it is the most successful ipo at the same times his associates are writing reports condemning meat and climate. he is essentially lobbying f...

A political document. it's not what we need for america when we're $17 trillion in debt. >> senator durbin, you have proposed substantial reform of entitlements including social security apart from any grand bargain p p you say we need it because we're going to run out of money. but the president as we pointed out is taking at least one reform in the cost of living adjustment off the table. as another point in this whole question of spending, the white house argues we can spend more now because according to the congressional budget office, deficits are going down. you can see it up on the scre...

It's not what we need for america when we're $17 trillion in debt. >> senator durbin, you have proposed substantial reform of entitlements including social security apart from any grand bargain p p you say we need it because we're going to run out of money. but the president as we pointed out is taking at least one reform in the cost of living adjustment off the table. as another point in this whole question of spending, the white house argues we can spend more now because according to the congressional budget office, deficits are going down. you can see it up on the screen. in billions of dol...

Also one sided. >> let's talk about the president's budget. >> should he have kept the chain cpi in the budget? i think he decided he wouldn't get any credit for doing that, so the $56 billion is half defense and half domestic spending, we should put that out there, and it's offset by other cuts to -- i think it's either me paid for, but nonetheless, this is not a bipartisan budget, and i think that's a missed opportunity. >> michael, i want to ask about the deficits which i discussed with the senators in an earlier segment because the white house talks a lot, and let's put it up on the screen...

Close. the president has that in his budget. if there's more, they left the door open for putting that back on the table. if there's a negotiation happening. but if republicans are going to continue to dig their heels in and not focus instead on investing in the middle class, which are also key components to the budget, then the president will not negotiate with himself. it makes a lot of sense. it needs to be seen in the total context of the discussion and the budget debate. >> do you buy that? >> not really. at the end of the day this is a political budget. it's a budget that especially when...