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29 of whom died on his watch last monday. joining me now here in new york as promised, co-founder editor in chief of the huffington post arianna huffington. is this the pattern with how regulations are not enforced? but how they are made or not made? >> well, yes. that's the problem. even when regulations are made after a disaster like after the sago disaster. the loopholes put in the regulations, which in the end they're not enforced. here we have a classic example of how that works. the mine had 515 violations in 2009. and already 124 in 2010. but by abusing due process and challenging them,...

Joining me now here in new york as promised, co-founder editor in chief of the huffington post arianna huffington. is this the pattern with how regulations are not enforced? but how they are made or not made? >> well, yes. that's the problem. even when regulations are made after a disaster like after the sago disaster. what happens is that there are so many loopholes put into the regulations, that in the end they're not really enforced. here we have a classic example of how that works. the mine had 515 violations in 2009. and already 124 in 2010. but by abusing due process and challenging them...

I want to begin with a statement that is on the massey website. it says its company, this is company wide, had an all time best safety record. it also notes sixth consecutive year, 17 of the past 20 years in which massey's safety performance was stronger than the industry average. it also lists some awards for safety. none of them at the mine in question. let's take a closer look at the violations. this is the upper big branch south mine. this is where the men died in the explosion. 240 citations back in 2000. 156. you see the numbers here. we get closer here. 197. there was a drop in 2008. it...

Stopped again. there's scepticism by the governor and congressional leaders that's why they are promising an investigation. >> interesting you bring that up, norah, we heard some about inspections, allegations. officials say obviously they want to rescue these miners. we know that's of the utmost importance but it is a big part of this situation how they got trapped in the first place and was there some type of negligence on behalf of this mine and the owners. >> reporter: absolutely. and according to the emsa administrator, kevin stricklin, who i pressed very hard yesterday about was this min...

Years. from 197 in 2008 to 515 in 2009. and 124 already this year. experts say some of the violations are serious, even flagrant. and in both areas criminal -- critical to preventing explosions. this man who once oversaw mine safety laws says the violations should have sounded alarms. >> the high levels of serious violations in the ventilation areas and concerns about methane, all of those should be giving you this kind of, whoa, we better take a look at this. >> reporter: still, even in the wake of this tragedy, massey energy's website boasts of its commitment to safety. the company's ceo, do...