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In chief of the huffington post arianna huffington. is this the pattern with how regulations are not enforced? but how they are made or not made? >> well, yes. that's the problem. even when regulations are made after a disaster like after the sago disaster. the loopholes put in the regulations, which in the end they're not enforced. here we have a classic example of how that works. the mine had 515 violations in 2009. and already 124 in 2010. but by abusing due process and challenging them, this could not be held against them to create what is called a pattern of violations and therefore close...

29 of whom died on his watch last monday. joining me now here in new york as promised, co-founder editor in chief of the huffington post arianna huffington. is this the pattern with how regulations are not enforced? but how they are made or not made? >> well, yes. that's the problem. even when regulations are made after a disaster like after the sago disaster. the loopholes put in the regulations, which in the end they're not enforced. here we have a classic example of how that works. the mine had 515 violations in 2009. and already 124 in 2010. but by abusing due process and challenging them,...

Joining me now here in new york as promised, co-founder editor in chief of the huffington post arianna huffington. is this the pattern with how regulations are not enforced? but how they are made or not made? >> well, yes. that's the problem. even when regulations are made after a disaster like after the sago disaster. what happens is that there are so many loopholes put into the regulations, that in the end they're not really enforced. here we have a classic example of how that works. the mine had 515 violations in 2009. and already 124 in 2010. but by abusing due process and challenging them...