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Newborn babies. 18 lawmakers calling the bill emergency measure arguing it is necessary for preserving oregon health and safety but some residents say it straight up big brother. two of the favorites are here to debate. the defense attorney bob and david bruno, welcome you both. high, shannon. >> shannon: so let me start with what we have a little bit from the bill. and this is senate bill 526, 2019 act necessary for the immediate preservation of the public peace health and safety and emergency declared to exist in 2019 act takes effect on its passage. which one of you thinks this is an emerge...

Michael, i know he didn't get that story out of one of your books, because i've read them all. what do you make of -- who is talking to him and what did you make of what we just heard? >> uh, i think -- i'm glad at least he's talking about a historical figure. it's not quite the way it happened. and i think maybe grant was recognized a little bit in the past, not just these days. >> yes, i had heard his name before. >> once or twice. i think we've even discussed him. >> i'm on page 526, which is this much book. and thank you for this book, i'm enjoying it thoroughly. >> delighted. >> let's tal...

Founders was that it should be done by congress in a war declaration. haven't been any of those since 1942. presidents can, in a way, get involved in wars almost single handedly and almost overnight. my worry, with a modern president, and donald trump as president, he may be tempted at some point to lurch towards war because he knows that can help a president that has an election ahead of them. in 2011, 2012, president trump would tweet predicting that barack obama would start a war in order to get elected in 2012. very bad idea for a president to be thinking that way. >> as luck would have it...

Happened. and i think maybe grant was recognized a little bit in the past, not just these days. >> yes, i had heard his name before. >> once or twice. i think we've even discussed it. >> i'm on page 526, which is this much book, and thank you for this book. i'm enjoying it thoroughly. >> delighted. >> let's talk about presidential power and the right to start or escala escalate, if not the right but ability and what i know to be your concern right now in 2018. >> well, the idea of the founders was it should be done by congress in a war decoloration,, haven't been any of those since 1942, presi...

Michael, i know he didn't get that story out of one of your books because i've read them all. what do you make of -- who is talking to him and what did you make of what we just heard? >> i think the -- i'm glad at least he's talking about a historical figure. it's not quite the way it happened. and i think maybe grant was recognized a little bit in the past, not just these days. >> yes, i had heard his name before. >> once or twice. i think we've even discussed it. >> i'm on page 526, which is this much book, and thank you for this book. i'm enjoying it thoroughly. >> delighted. >> let's talk ...