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Court finds, legal fees, and restitution, before a convicted felon may then be allowed to vote. he tells the story of this woman who believe she owed a few hundred dollars, to discover that she had to pay $52,985.02, to cast her vote in florida. ms. bolden, is one of more than 700,000 people in florida, who are barred from voting because they cannot afford the financial obligation stemming from a prior felony conviction. it's like i'm not a citizen, she said. that's what they're saying. joining us, now it's member of the new york times editorial board, jesse, and also desmond meade executive d...

That $52,900? >> well, it happens in lots of different ways. you know, one way is that there are sort of initial fines and fees that may follow on a criminal conviction. but then, you know, the really sort of insidious part is people get new court costs applied to them for every time they show up in court. then their debt may get sold to a collections agency, and the collections agency can charge up to 40% interest, and so everything just builds up really quickly, and when people are making, you know, minimum wage or a little bit more and they have to pay all their other bills, they end up not...