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He never made the agreement. I think he knew he was looking at jail time. It was how much he could shave off. And i think thats what were beginning to get some idea at. I would throw this question to chuck, is one of the central key differences here between these two, between the flynn and cohen case, is that flynn cooperated immediately, early, right out of the gate and often. And that cohen was late . One of the big differences here is between early cooperation and late cooperation . Flynn was immediate, it was fullsome, it was timely and it was therefore substantial. Cohen was later and les...

Your country and yet mr. mueller is recommending no prison time. how helpful was general flynn? he must have been extraordinarily helpful that if a federal judge is sitting there going, i can't believe -- essentially, i can't believe the deal you're getting, i wouldn't be giving you this deal, how much help does that mean he probably gave to mr. mueller? >> for michael flynn to get that substantial assistance as is determined by the government in their sole discretion, worthy enough to give that 5k1 motion, substantial assistance, which is the most powerful downward movement on a sentence, mic...

Selfless case is unstated. i know attorneys put in a few days ago asking for leniency, you heard that. what do you expect the judge to do about the belief of what cooperation looked like? >> what a study of contrast between michael flynn, michael cohen and maybe at the other end of the extreme, paul manafort. and michael cohen is the example of a defendant who has cooperated some but not quite enough to warrant a 5k1 motion or substantial assistance that can reduce his sentencing significantly. last week his attorneys did a good job creating an atmosphere where it made michael cohen as the pic...

Below-guidelines sentence. he could still make a solid pitch for a below guidelines sentence but even then he would be looking at minimum, say, five years, something like that. >> let's switch quickly to george papadopolous. what do you make of the news of mueller recommending he spend up to six months in prison? >> it is not that significant because that would have been the guidelines range anyway given he has no prior criminal history and he only pleaded guilty to section 1001. he is placed in the zero to six-month category. i think that tells us had he cooperated more and given what the gov...

Ultimately sentenced, he will get the benefit of prosecutors asking for a reduced sentence and what we call a 5k1 motion to bring his sentence down somewhat. but make no mistake about it, gates does not get the benefit of the bargain unless and until he provides those prosecutors with information that they deem to be full cooperation and beneficial to their case. >> danny, paul manafort released a statement notwith standing that gates pled today. i continue to maintain my innocence. i had hoped and expected my business colleague would have had the strength to continue, for reasons yet to surfa...