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A greater opportunity to try to repeal obama care overall. >> look, they control the united states senate. the president has got a vote toe and he's going to be in office for three more years plus. so i've never thought repeal was very likely thing. it was an unrealistic goal for those who set it. but the president's in a strong position. now we have passed seven pieces of legislation that the president agreed to, democrats in the senate that have saved $62 billion. there's probably other areas we can agree on. we should work down that path. again, i don't see that fight as one that needs to b...

Want to delay it if only for political purposes. we want to give them that opportunity. i expect the senate will send something back and the house will respond to that. i would be very surprised if we get to a government shuft shutdown. that's certainly not our aim. >> you think it is a serious proposition, though, to take the funding away for obamacare. and the only reason i ask this to you, as we all know this is the president's signature policy achievement. it has passed test after test. again i know a lot of people hate it. i'm not making a political point here. i'm just saying it's passed...

Blocking majority in the senate. we just sit to need down, engage constructively where we can. we've passed seven bills that saved about $62 billion out of obama care. got rid of the 1040s. probably ought to focus on the medical it was tax which isn't going to be popular. howard dean is on friday saying the big component is not going to work. the administration has backed off their businessman date. this is a program that's collapsing. i think we ought to keep the pressure on it but it would be a mistake again to use a tactic that ultimately will not work, the president would not concede, and ...

This investigation. martha? martha: catherine, you had an opportunity to see where some of this data is collected. >> reporter: yes, as part of a special for fox news reporting, your secret's out, just broadcast within the last couple of months we went to utah and the utah data center. this is like a giant thumb drive storage facility for the nsa in the high desert. we were not allowed access or to speak to anyone there. we hired a helicopter to give you a bird's-eye view. this is a mammoth facility. the published reports indicate it can hold five zeta bytes of data. one zeta byte is equivalen...

Iphones. 62 million iphones reaching higher than the international space station and one zet a byte is 62 billion iphones. stacked, they would reach past the moon. if it has five zeta bytes. it could store every e-mail, cell phone call, google search and surveillance camera video in america for a very long time. what are they going to do with the data center? >> i don't know. it's classified. >> gary herbert is utah's republican governor. >> you've seen the reports, e-mails, phone records, banking records, all of that. >> i've been the tour, seen the facilities. given me a general overview. ...