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Up in court, and that's an open border. i myself have been to congress on numerous occasions telling them to close the loophole, we can't detain families together. until they see the judge. you want to have due process here, we want the same thing. but we want to release them into the wind. it people question why we do what we do but the people that need to look in the mirror is congress. congress had the ability to fix it, but didn't fix it. >> harris: real quickly, there are nearly 629,000 be sent overseas in the united states and that the last statistic from fiscal year 2016. it's not just ...

Entering illegally. a wall solves 95% of the problems. >> you know where he gets that number? >> yes. >> well, i'm glad you used your ear. because some people would say somewhere else. i was looking down as i was listening to that. trying to do a little bit of research here, one of the bigger problems where immigration is people who overstay their visas. in 2016, i think it was 629,000 people overstayed their visas. those countries are mostly european countries. this whole thing about the border is in crisis, there are a lot of europeans who are here illegally, they shouldn't be here. >> what'...

People who overstay their visas. in 2016, i think it was 629,000 people overstayed their visas. those countries are mostly european countries. this whole thing about the border is in crisis, there are a lot of europeans who are here illegally, they shouldn't be here. >> what's the point? we know we have problems they're going to have to deal with that with these calls to abolish iris and everything else our whole deal is because of instances like this. no personal disrespect to steve i understand what he's doing but they just throw stuff out there, and the president is the master of it, and th...

>> i put the numbers -- the pen and paper to numbers. 80,000 per postal employee. how in the world do you expect he to compete when you have 629,000 employees and you're tacking on $16 billion of loss a year? aren't there too many letter carriers? >> absolutely not. my union is the rural letter carriers association, national rural ler carriers association union, and over 50% of my craft is a part-time employee that works only on saturday or when needed. they have no benefits of any type. >> okay. with all due respect, that's your union. the national letter carriers union is 629,000 employees. ...

how much money was at his disposal. >> they could have used it to get him out, but on the other hand judge lester runs aa tight courtroom, as well he should, and he was frustrated because he doesn't think they were being as straightforward and honest as he thought they should. he hope the revocation is temporary. i hope he'll give us a day in court to explain george's behavior and look at all the circumstances, even the discovery that's come out to date, in determining what to do to let him back out on bond. within 48 hours. i haven't even spoken to him yet. >> reporter: did you read...