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>> you've done a great job because -- i'm not doing too good. >> people think this stuff is easy, right, regis? it's not too easy. >> she is a former trump executive. she wrote the book "all alone on the 68th floor" and she hired mr. cohen. barbara, i think you know the saying, it's getting hot in here. >> yes, it is. >> it's getting hot for people who worked for trump. maybe not you. >> i'm good. >> you're cool. >> yeah. >> mr. calamari, you hired him? >> the big squid we used to call him. >> that was an affectionate term? >> it was then. >> it was then? can anything be gleaned by that appear...

>> i am proud to shut down the government for border security i will take the mantle and shut it down. i'm not going to blame you for it. >> joining me is maria inhossa, and tara dadowel, business and political consultant, barbara rest, former vice president at the trump organization, author of alone on the 68th floor and david johnson, founder of d.c. report.org and author of it's even worse than you think. certainly the shutdown was even worse than anybody thought it would be i want to come to you on this first. a couple of you at this table know donald trump personally the pain that donald ...

Institute and i need my rent paid and i have nothing, and i need to know, when is he going to open things back up? because i'm about to be evicted. if i don't have my rent in by the first of next month through the second chance program i will be evicted. >> leading off our discussion now, joy reid, msnbc national correspondent and host of "a.m. joy" weekends here on msnbc. barbara ress. the former executive vice president of the trump organization and author of "all alone on the 68th floor: how one woman changed the face of construction." jack o'donnell, chief operating officer of trump plaza ...

The second chance program i will be evicted. >> leading off our discussion now, joy reid, msnbc national correspondent and host of "a.m. joy" weekends here on msnbc. barbara ress. the former executive vice president of the trump organization and author of "all alone on the 68th floor: how one woman changed the face of construction." jack o'donnell, chief operating officer of trump plaza and casino and co-author of "trump: the inside story of the real donald trump." jack o'donnell, of course, being the most successful american with the name o'donnell and not related to me, of course. joy, i wan...

Have seen donald trump's deal making up close, former trump executive barra res, author of all alone on the 68th floor. how one woman changed the face of construction. and mike an d antonia, the shadow of the government, mike pence. is donald trump a master negotiator? >> i have been thinking about this a lot. people have been asking me this. it's also in the news. he had certain things he could do well. he did do them better when he started out than as time went on. he got more used to getting his way and more demanding. but he's never been any kind of a collaborator. he's never worked with o...