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Dangerous position to be in or not? >> well, i think there are definitely tough choices we have to make about how we're spending our money and being sustainable. i think there are smart ways to make government more efficient. if you look, for example, we spend about $93 billion every year in social services for unemployed young people, young people who are not connected to school. we only spend about $2.5 billion for job training programs. if we invested in the kind of job training and education that young people need, that could grow our economy, and it could reduce some of the government exp...

If you look, for example, we spend about $93 billion every year in social services for unemployed young people, young people who are not connected to school. we only spend about $2.5 billion for job training programs. if we invested in the kind of job training and education that young people need, that could grow our economy and it could reduce some of the government expenditur expenditures. >> let's get to cuts. where would you get $4 trillion in cuts over 10 years? >> who are you asking? >> i'm asking aaron. >> okay. >> cuts. what would you cut to get down to save $4 trillion? >> i think we ...

>> obesity touches -- we always think about heart, but my gosh, you can't find a cancer where the risk doesn't increase if you're obese. >> diabetes. >> diabetes. >> everything. >> it is -- dana, i'm not sure a pill is really the solution because we have to look at our food system ultimately. >> but you're -- >> we spend $93 billion for obesity-related preventative care and $96 billion for smoking-related. >> are those annual numbers, dana? >> yes. in fact, actually the costs are much higher when you take into account the conditions that are a result of these behaviors. diabetes, heart disease...

The money spent on welfare it was not meant to get people out of welfare initially. most of the programs meant to help people subsist on welfare. but the best way to get off of welfare for those at the top of the welfare line is get a growing economy to move in the middle class. the president of the united states is not -- >> eric: no liberal comment, though. it's bad now, but imagine how bad it would be if we hadn't spent a $1 trillion or $15 trillion or $20 trillion. >> bob: it would have been much worse! >> kimberly: when you look at the cato study we mentioned earlier, federal welfare spen...

Help people subsist on welfare. but the best way to get off of welfare for those at the top of the welfare line is get a growing economy to move in the middle class. the president of the united states is not -- >> eric: no liberal comment, though. it's bad now, but imagine how bad it would be if we hadn't spent a $1 trillion or $15 trillion or $20 trillion. >> bob: it would have been much worse! >> kimberly: when you look at the cato study we mentioned earlier, federal welfare spending is up 41%. $193 billion extra per year. who is going to want to give that money back? you know what? forget i...