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Reduce the deficit by $143 billion. however, that doesn't include what might come and what's been promised with more than a wink and a nod to doctors, which is to up their medicare payments, their reimbursements which would cost $208 billion, which then means it actually would be -- would add to the deficit. is that -- is my math correct there? >> well, if that were to be true. but here's the thing, there's no question about the fact that we need to take care of the docs and emphasize primary care. but also what never gets discussed, candy, is some that reuters came out earlier this year. $700...

"forbes" magazine and there's a lot of talk, that it is look a bernie madoff kind of a bill. this bill reads to me more like an enron-style, bernie madoff, worldcom, dot-com bubble rolled into one, there are so many gimmicks and you outlined one and that is the doc fix, the $208 billion, in exposed costs for paying medicare physicians and that is being put aside in a stand-alone bill and that would have wiped out the exposed cost savings of $138 billion, over ten years, and... >> you know what, you know, what seems bizarre about that is they talk about the cost of health care, and when you men...

Adding of troops that president obama has committed to afghanistan and others who think it is not and it is a tougher situation to solve than some would have you believe. but the bottom line is how much do the budgetary constraints impose about the decisions of the right thing to do or not to do is? >> well, you focus on the key issue. general omar bradley used to say that amateurs study strategy, but the experts study budgets. when you look at the budgets, you determine what you are able to carry out, and what secretary gates has done in proposing the budget, it is a total of $708 billion and...

>> greta: there's no -- >> there will come a time. >> greta: you won't go down that road. how about going down this road, what's the difference -- i realize time and history and a lot has changed what is the different between director of the cia and secretary of defense? >> doing tv interviews. i didn't do many news conversations when i was director of cia. didn't have much of a ceremonial role. there's a much bigger public dement . also, maybe the best thing, all of my hearings on the hill were closed. >> greta: is the job much different? >> it is very different. >> greta: in what way? >> fir...

>> greta: there's no -- >> there will come a time. >> greta: you won't go down that road. how about going down this road, what's the difference -- i realize time and history and a lot has changed what is the different between director of the cia and secretary of defense? >> doing tv interviews. i didn't do many news conversations when i was director of cia. didn't have much of a ceremonial role. there's a much bigger public dement . also, maybe the best thing, all of my hearings on the hill were closed. >> greta: is the job much different? >> it is very different. >> greta: in what way? >> fir...