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What is this? the budget? >> yeah. we'll get to the space stuff in just a moment. this is a $4.4 trillion spending plan. let's begin with the cuts. medicaid and medicare. $250 billion for medicaid over ten years. cuts to the food stamp program. $214 billion over ten years. the epa, this will get some tongues wagging. $208 billion in cuts. a 34% cut. by the way, virtually eliminates all climate change related programs. let's take a look at the boosts. defense spending. heard a lot about this of the $716 billion going to the mel teary. healthcare for the veterans. the opioid crisis response, $13...

Again, that's the authorization, it's not the appropriation. this bill would also raise the debt ceiling so it's not voted on again until after this election. and then it would fill up to fema, the federal emergency management agency pot now run out of money $08 billion in disaster relief it would sit there until it was needed over the course of the next several years. by comparison, martha, the house bill they are working on increases defense spending by $35 billion this year from 549 to 584. but does not increase to nondefense spending, doesn't do anything about the debt ceiling and doesn't ...

Middle class americans pay more by the year 2027. that's not the only tax pledge that has been broken here. remember the promises of a simpler tax code. experts say both versions are incredibly complex. remember the promise the bill would pay for itself. the senate plan cost millions over the decade. congress itself estimates the bill only creates $408 billion in growth leaving about a trillion in deficits. still a lot of concern about middle class people who live in those high tax states who deduct a lot of state and local taxes still trying to work that out. teachers concerned about their wr...

Irma 80 deaths, and maria almost 80 deaths. maria they are estimating $108 billion. maria around $85 billion. so these donations really have to pour in. the last time all five presidents got together at one time was in 2013 for the opening of the george w. bush library in dallas. if you want to donate dough to the website web on one america appeal.org.

Debt. chris: but the fact is there is no evidence that tax cuts pay for themselves. the reagan tax cut back in 1981 added $208 billion to the deficit over four years. the bush tax cuts in 2001 and 2003 added 1 and a half trillion dollars to the debt over ten years. mr. mulvaney you can argue that tax cuts spur economic growth. i think that's a perfectly legitimate argument, there is no evidence that they pay for themselves. >> well, just look at the facts and you can go back, chris, and make an assumption and run some numbers but if we have 3% growth, which what we are trying to get, where we ...