Democratic congressman mark pocan of wisconsin. thank you for being on the show. thank you. first of all, what is going to happen? what is the plan? given the fact that the white house is just said no, there is no impeachment. we re not participating. yeah, this is just the white house s newest attempt to try to think they re above the law. they don t have to participate in the process. and i think where we re at is house democrats were not taking it any more. we re figuring out every possible way to compel folks, if not we ll move ahead and add that to any articles of obstruction. but we sent a letter to secretary pompeo regarding a provision in the annual recurring budget process section 713 that says you could go after the pay of anyone who directs someone not to participate with a committee inquiry and we re going to start being more aggressive on this because we have to make people have to be within the law and they re not ....