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Came to the debate about syrian refugees coming to the u.s. i want to listen to the sound bytes from that. from what he said. >> my hope, though, now we've got some time to catch our breath and take a look at this carefully people understand that refugees who end up in the united states are the most vetted, scrutinize d, thoroughl investigated individuals that ever arrive on american shores. >> david, what do you make of what he said on the refugee issue? >> he's absolutely right there. there's this misinformation about refugees. if you look at the statistics very few have engaged in terror pl...

Ref uuge refugees. very few that have come through the refugee resettlement program, out of 785,000 since 2011, only 10 or less have been arrested for terrorist plots. none have actually carried out terrorist plots. there are much easier ways for terrorists to get here, like the visa waver program, and none of the 19 came as refugees. the politicians who are talking about this should not only look at the statistics, they have to look at other things that benefit the united states from these refugee programs programs. they support people who support democracy abroad. think of the protesters in ...

I think -- do we have -- all right, let's play that sound from secretary of state john kerry. >> since 9/11, we have allowed 785,000 refugees to come to the united states of america, all vetted, all screens, out of the 785,0 785,000, 12 were found to be perhaps problematic and they were arrested or deported. >> what's your response to the secretary of state? >> well, i don't take issue with what he's having to say, poppy but what the fbi director said in his testimony before congress was we can't properly vet these folks because if they haven't done anything to rise to the level to attract our...

Them anymore? >> >> we have had 785,000 refugees come here since 9/11 and fewer than 10 have engaged in any planning of terrorist acts. this is not a problem. you weed no focus on the problems. why are republicans trying to pass a law to fix a problem that's not a problem? i thought republicans were for limited government. let's focus on the ways that terrorists actually get here. it's actually more likely that a person born in the u.s. would engage in terrorism than a person who is a refugee who goes through significant vetting process has become a paris. >> this is a whole new world. they wa...

The most vigorous vetting process that we have for anybody who is admitted. the idea that somehow they pose a more significant threat than all the tourists that pour into the united states every single day just doesn't jive with reality. that's not what our law enforcement think. that's not what anybody who has looked at this problem thinks. >> joining us now for reaction from washington, d.c. david a human rights attorney and steve buechey, a national security expert at the heritage foundation. i'm going to start with you, david, do you agree with the president that letting in syrian refugees...