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Right? think about it. if past is prologue, then in planning for the next election, if you're a political candidate, you would be very well off hoping for a karl rove spending campaign against you. it would do wonders for your odds, because 98% of the money he spent in the last election went the way he didn't want it to go, was wasted. but even karl rove's massively ineffectual spending on the last campaign looks positively impressive, positively robust compared to the right wing group that did worst of all. you think these other groups sucked? check out the nra. the nra's power in the last el...

"the new york times," helene cooper, nbc chief correspondent and reporter chuck todd, host of cnbc's "mad money," the mild man, jim cramer, and chairman and ceo of the special olympics and contributor to "the washington post," tim shriver. here was the headline in "the washington post," chuck todd -- "bitter fight makes both sides and washington itself look bad." you cannot come away from this week and think this is a low moment for our policy makers and politicians. >> they were arguing over it. at one point it was 0.83% of the federal budget, so less than 1%. and then at end of that $300 mil...

And reporter chuck todd, host of cnbc's "mad money," the mild man, jim cramer, and chairman and ceo of the special olympics and contributor to "the washington post," tim shriver. here was the headline in "the washington post," chuck todd -- "bitter fight makes both sides and washington itself look bad." you cannot come away from this week and think this is a low moment for our policy makers and politicians. >> they were arguing over it. at one point it was 0.83% of the federal budget, so less than 1%. and then at end of that $300 million provision about planned parenthood, you're arguing over ...

Understands the politics of this he understands also, a different cast of characters here in the leadership. they are all saying the same thing which is we do not want the government to shut down which is far different than what happened in 1995 and '96 when they said they did want the government to shut down. this is my point. i believe that the whole -- both sides will get the blame. i think this is bad for president obama as well. >> but what they are saying, john, is if you don't really give us more -- more than half of what we want, we will see a government shutdown. they asked for $61 bi...

Let me say that john boehner understands the politics of this he understands also, a different cast of characters here in the leadership. they are all saying the same thing which is we do not want the government to shut down which is far different than what happened in 1995 and '96 when they said they did want the government to shut down. this is my point. i believe that the whole -- both sides will get the blame. i think this is bad for president obama as well. >> but what they are saying, john, is if you don't really give us more -- more than half of what we want, we will see a government sh...