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Responsible way to deal with the debt. but listen, the democrats' position is they want to raise taxes in this, and they want to have a tax deal. if you take president obama's tax increases, $82 billion a year. that doesn't even run -- that barely runs the post office for a year, much less the federal government. so there's not enough money there. you have to deal with into it with elements if you ever want to get this under control. simon keeps saying that the democrats are not intransgem. this is a letter signed by 33 senate democrats saying no changes to social security at all, ever, under ...

Up this summer. s & p case schiller index tracks them in 20 u.s. cities and according to the latest numbers prices jumped. that's compared to the same quarter last year. analysts say it's another sign that the housing market is bouncing back and could indeed help boost our economy. foreign buyers are helping drive up the home prices. analysts say folks from places including china are spending billions of dollars on u.s. real estate each year. they say those investors are snatching up everything from foreclosed homes to high end luxury properties. william lajeunesse live in los angeles. william...

Know if that's true. >> i don't know one. >> why are we talking about the republicans when we should be talking about the conservative democrats who ran senate seats who ran on a campaign against what president obama is talking about? why not talk about them? in 201047 democratic senators voted with president obama in order to extend the bush cuts. >> sean: the republicans, the ones signaling they're giving in, and the democrats, lock solid, they're not moving, as of now. i'm trying to reinforce -- >> i would just leave the republicans and focus on the democrats. what are they going to do? wha...

That there's too much stubbornness in congress, that we can't even agree on giving middle-class families a tax cut, then middle-class families are all going to end up having a big tax hike. that's going to be a pretty rude shock for them, and i suspect will have a big impact on the holiday shopping season, which in turn will have an impact on business planning and hiring, and we can go back into a recession. >> sean: republicans hate big beared and santa claus. don't buy this hype, such as letting the bush cuts expire, are not the answer to tackling this deficit. in fact, during the 2012 fisca...

Review their business model. [ laughter ] let me tell you something, okay? if you're losing $16 billion a year, you don't have a business model. okay? you have a going out of business model. it's not a business model. >> steve: they've had that for years. >> brian: right. and i thought the peel away stamp would be their ticket stardom. when you stop licking stamps, i thought for sure the post office would change everything. >> gretchen: yeah. i thought standing in line for hours and hours would finally be the ticket to success. >> brian: that would be a negative, to get an envelope. listen, if...