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Change your position on the bill? >> no, not at all. the cbo, you know, if you look historically, they have been way off on certain things. if you look at the original cost of the affordable care act, it was $860 billion. but truth be known, it was over $2 trillion. it's only off by a factor of 2 trillion. the cbo is a good starting point but not the end result. we have to look down the road to see what we are fliaccomplishin here. the affordable care act on its own is going to be it i own demise. we see the exchanges some counesly have one insurance marketer and so on its own it's not providi...

Ao >>. >> neil: the government is bragging how it expects to make $34 billion on interest payments on more than $860 billion in outstanding college loans. bragging about screwing kids, i would say class dismissed here? >> absolutely. the government makes its money so the colleges tuition keeps going up. >> you sound like those guys.... >> i will say this, though. they can brag now but at some point it comes back and they are losing money, guess who is going to have to pay for it. >> kids took out the loans. it reminds me of the mortgage crisis, it's j.p. morgan's fault

So will it? let's ask stuart varney. good to see you. i was listening to that snippet from the president and that was a different message from four years ago when he was talking about the surplus plan and 800-some billion dollars of taxpayer money. >> the stimulus plan was $860 billion passed three and a half years ago, widely judged to be a failure. the president's infrastructure plan this time around is $21 billion. that's a vastly scaled-down plan. $21 billion, that is really small. it suggests to me the president is losing the argument. his argument is that you create prosperity, you get t...

Then not really gone for, simpson-bowles. >> unfortunately i don't have 15 years of romney's tax returns so i can't answer the questions in them. there's a lot of talk ba b taxes, romney's and tax propo l proposa proposals. let's remind everybody what the bid and ask is among the various participants. the president has proposed $1.5 trillion of tax increases over the next ten years as part of his budget plan and of course he's been arguing about whether you increase it on everybody making over 250,000 or everybody making over 1 million. so this white and blue bar at the bottom represent what y...

Was the last stimulus plan, $860 billion, so your number, $30 billion -- >> that means you have to find them. if you looked at your gardeners, you'd probably find them. george bush made a point, he got 44% of the hispanic vote. if the republicans cannot get north of 25% of the hispanic vote, they cannot get elected president of the united states. impossible. so the question for newt is, do you play that idiot tancredo game -- >> tancredo is a purist also. >> he's not in office anymore, first of all. and secondly, president obama is losing hispanics, not because of the immigration stance, but e...