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i mean, chris, it will me what the communities online look like around figures like marjorie taylor greene. >> thanks for having me on, nicolle. so marjorie taylor greene is a superstar in the worst places of the internet but she's also really popular on musk's twitter. right? i mean, over the last few months since elon has sealed this deal and taken over twitter we've seen a lot of the cesspool of 4chan and 8kun and a lot of these alternative social media websites bleed into twitter because elon is very deliberately trying to welcome those far right extremists into the fold and to coddle them. we've seen far right politicians interacting with elon musk on a regular basis. now, as far as law enforcement goes, 13 months ago i was on your show and i talked about how

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jim's the father and ron's the son. jim watkins bought this website, 8kun — 8chan, and then became 8kun — and his son was a sort of computer programmer. and we think that, in the latter months and years of qanon, they were the ones who were controlling it. and certainly, in the course of researching my podcast, there was evidence that we uncovered, and other people uncovered, that people in the trump orbit, in the run—up to the 2020 election campaign, had been in touch with the watkinses in order to try and harness the power of this crazy conspiracy theory to help get donald trump elected. irene? yeah, yeah, definitely. i agree, that's the main theory, and all the evidence points towards the watkinses, mostly because, as i mentioned, the short code, there is evidence showing that it was edited manually to match q's original short

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of government in the united states. and 0, this government insider, was posting his secrets on a little—known website called 4chan, then 8chan, then 8kun — these kind of very niche internet message boards. and the last time he posted something was shortly after the 2020 election. he posted a link to a song called we're not going to take it, and that was it. we thought this thing had disappeared. we thought it had kind of merged with the millions of people who believe that the us election had been stolen, and that the kind of satanic cabal element had kind of faded into the background, but now he — we're assuming it's a he — is back posting under the name of q on this same niche website called 8kun. and, irene, why now do you think? what's he posted on that, and why now?

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supposedly captured the levers of government in the united states. and 0, this government insider, was posting his secrets on a little—known website called 4chan, then 8chan, then 8kun. these kind of very niche internet message boards. and the last time he posted something was shortly after the 2020 election. he posted a link to a song called we're not going to take it. and that was it. we thought this thing had disappeared. we thought it had kind of merged with the millions of people who believe that the us election had been stolen and that the kind of satanic cabal element had kind of faded into the background, but now he — we're assuming it's a he — is back posting under the name of q on this same niche website, called 8kun. and, irene, why now do you think? what's he posted on that, and why now?

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duo called jim and ron watkins. jim's the father and ron's the son. jim watkins bought this website, 8kun — 8chan, and then became 8kun — and his son was a sort of computer programmer. and we think that, in the latter months and years of qanon, they were the ones who were controlling it. and certainly, in the course of researching my podcast, there was evidence that we uncovered, and other people uncovered, that people in the trump orbit, in the run—up to the 2020 election campaign, had been in touch with the watkinses in order to try and harness the power of this crazy conspiracy theory to help get donald trump elected. irene? yeah, yeah, definitely. i agree, that's the main theory. and all the evidence points towards the watkinses. also because, as i mentioned, the short code, there is evidence showing that it was edited manually to match q's

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michigan school of information. irene, gabriel, welcome to the media show. hi, katie. hello. thank you. most welcome. gabriel, when we say 0 is back, how do we know this? what's happened 7 ok, so, 0 was this supposed figure who was supposed to be a government insider with high—level security clearance who was revealing secrets about this cabal of satanic paedophiles that had supposedly captured the levers of government in the united states. and 0, this government insider, was posting his secrets on a little—known website called 4chan, then 8chan, then 8kun — these kind of very niche internet message boards. and the last time he posted something was shortly after the 2020 election. he posted a link to a song called we're not going to take it, and that was it.

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play a role, they pretend to be a high—level government insider, and other people online kind of play along and pretend to believe him, but don't really. and the idea is that qanon sort ofjumped out of this niche portion of the internet where people kind of knew what was going on, and on to the mainstream internet, if you like, facebook, youtube, where people weren't so savvy, and so they started believing this kind of outlandish stuff. whoever started it, we think that it ended up at least being controlled by this slightly strange father and son duo called jim and ron watkins. jim's the father and ron's the son. jim watkins bought this website, 8kun — 8chan, and then became 8kun — and his son was a sort of computer programmer. and we think that, in the latter months and years of qanon, they were the ones who were controlling it. and certainly, in the course of researching my podcast, there was evidence that we uncovered, and other people uncovered, that people in the trump orbit,

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we thought this thing had disappeared. we thought it had kind of merged with the millions of people who believe that the us election had been stolen, and that the kind of satanic cabal element had kind of faded into the background, but now he — we're assuming it's a he — is back posting under the name of q on this same niche website called 8kun. and, irene, why now do you think? what's he posted on that, and why now? yeah, ijust want to add that we also think it's the same 0 or the same person because he used the same short code that is used on the image boards by q. that's why the community kind of recognised q as the real 0. why now? that's a good question. i think it has to do with roe v wade overturn. it's a good political moment. you know, the audience, q's audience, is paying attention to what's happening at a political level.

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to "shall we play a game once more" in this latest post. it seems to be an acknowledgement that perhaps this whole thing is a game, and there's very strong evidence that it started as something called a larp, which is live action role—play. it's kind of like dungeons & dragons online, where people play a role, they pretend to be a high level in government insider and other people online kind of play along and pretend to believe him, don't really. and the idea is that qanon sort ofjumped out of this niche portion of the internet where people kind of knew what was going on and on to the mainstream internet, if you like. facebook, youtube, where people weren't so savvy. and so they started believing this kind of outlandish stuff. whoever started it, we think that it ended up at least being controlled by this slightly strange father and son duo called jim and ron watkins. jim's the father and ron's the son. jim watkins bought this website, 8kun — 8chan, and then became 8kun — and his son was a sort of computer programmer.

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so, basically, this is real evidence that behind q is the website manager. that behind q is the website manager-— that behind q is the website manauer. .,, , , manager. people will be listening, could be listening _ manager. people will be listening, could be listening and _ manager. people will be listening, could be listening and thinking - manager. people will be listening, | could be listening and thinking why are we even talking about such a bizarre conspiracy theory? a conspiracy that had as one of its original narratives that qanon spread, that there was an alleged satanic paedophile ring run by hillary clinton but is obviously morphed into much more than that. how is it influencing political debate in the us?— how is it influencing political debate in the us? basically, what ha--ened debate in the us? basically, what happened after— debate in the us? basically, what happened after the _ debate in the us? basically, what happened after the election - debate in the us? basically, what happened after the election was l debate in the us? basically, what i happened after the election was that this qanon conspiracy theory which already had, it's hard to say how many believers it had because it is a kind of spectrum, from people who literally believe that hillary clinton drinks baby's blood, to people who think there is a deep state and people we don't know are controlling our lives or presumably they can be that many people leaving hillary clinton drinks baby's blood? you would be surprised. i'm not kidding you. this qanon conspiracy

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