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BBC Sounds - QAnon: The Curious Collection

Take an audio trip down the rabbit hole to explore QAnon.

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jim's the father and ron's the son. jim watkins bought this website, 8kun — 8chan, and then became 8kun — and his son was a sort of computer programmer. and we think that, in the latter months and years of qanon, they were the ones who were controlling it. and certainly, in the course of researching my podcast, there was evidence that we uncovered, and other people uncovered, that people in the trump orbit, in the run—up to the 2020 election campaign, had been in touch with the watkinses in order to try and harness the power of this crazy conspiracy theory to help get donald trump elected. irene? yeah, yeah, definitely. i agree, that's the main theory, and all the evidence points towards the watkinses, mostly because, as i mentioned, the short code, there is evidence showing that it was edited manually to match q's original short

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who are promoting the big lie, and those who really don't, but it has become massively mainstream. if you look at the hearings that are currently going on, on capitol hill into what happened around the january 6, 2021 storming of the us capitol, what we see is that the american electorate is completely bifurcated by this conspiracy theory which really has qanon as a huge element. and the question of what happened in the 2020 election has essentially ceased to be one that is empirically answerable in american politics. it has become an entirely political question, and no facts seem capable of dissuading people who believe this conspiracy theory of the falseness of it. irene, this is a vast disinformation campaign, if you like. what is it about it that has meant so many people have taken it up?

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of government in the united states. and 0, this government insider, was posting his secrets on a little—known website called 4chan, then 8chan, then 8kun — these kind of very niche internet message boards. and the last time he posted something was shortly after the 2020 election. he posted a link to a song called we're not going to take it, and that was it. we thought this thing had disappeared. we thought it had kind of merged with the millions of people who believe that the us election had been stolen, and that the kind of satanic cabal element had kind of faded into the background, but now he — we're assuming it's a he — is back posting under the name of q on this same niche website called 8kun. and, irene, why now do you think? what's he posted on that, and why now?

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for clues, you make connections, and you might be part of this wonderful movement that can save the world from this overwhelming evil. when you put it like that, it sounds very compelling. i'm not suggesting that anyonejoins it. no. indeed. i was speaking from the point of view of a qanon devotee. do not try this at home! we won't. gabriel gatehouse and doctor irene pasquetto from the university of michigan, thank you so much for coming on the media show. now we are going to turn onto this row in bristol between a journalist and the mayor that has been troubling on this month. let me play you a clip from a press conference last week. the mayor had just got back from giving a ted talk in canada and a reporter was keen to ask him about it. i wondered firstly if you saw the irony in flying so far for a talk in climate change.

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it is changing and they don't feel like these changes are happening to their benefit, then as a kind of metaphor, qanon has the central core of truth and that is why so many people seem drawn to it, i think. 0k, has it spread across the atlantic? irene or gabriel, is it in the uk, is it in europe? yeah, i did some studies of qanon, how it has spread in europe, and what we found is that yes, it will be picked up by a lot of influencers in europe as well and it has spread well beyond social media. there are building their own infrastructure, websites and forums, and there is so much work taking in all of the qanon theories and data points and translating in the local languages. in germany, france, italy. and what they also did

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by significant numbers. qanon supporters were amongst the mob that stormed the us capitol last year. the movement has been fuelled by the online postings of a user who signs off as q, and last week, after nearly two years of silence, 0 posted again. gabriel gatehouse is international editor at bbc news and the presenter of the radio a documentary series the coming storm that looks at the rise of qanon, and dr irene pasquetto is assistant professor at the university of michigan school of information. irene, gabriel, welcome to the media show. hi, katie. hello. thank you. most welcome. gabriel, when we say 0 is back, how do we know this? what's happened 7 ok, so, 0 was this supposed figure who was supposed to be a government insider with high—level security clearance who was revealing secrets about this cabal of satanic paedophiles that had supposedly captured the levers

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supposedly captured the levers of government in the united states. and 0, this government insider, was posting his secrets on a little—known website called 4chan, then 8chan, then 8kun. these kind of very niche internet message boards. and the last time he posted something was shortly after the 2020 election. he posted a link to a song called we're not going to take it. and that was it. we thought this thing had disappeared. we thought it had kind of merged with the millions of people who believe that the us election had been stolen and that the kind of satanic cabal element had kind of faded into the background, but now he — we're assuming it's a he — is back posting under the name of q on this same niche website, called 8kun. and, irene, why now do you think? what's he posted on that, and why now?

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duo called jim and ron watkins. jim's the father and ron's the son. jim watkins bought this website, 8kun — 8chan, and then became 8kun — and his son was a sort of computer programmer. and we think that, in the latter months and years of qanon, they were the ones who were controlling it. and certainly, in the course of researching my podcast, there was evidence that we uncovered, and other people uncovered, that people in the trump orbit, in the run—up to the 2020 election campaign, had been in touch with the watkinses in order to try and harness the power of this crazy conspiracy theory to help get donald trump elected. irene? yeah, yeah, definitely. i agree, that's the main theory. and all the evidence points towards the watkinses. also because, as i mentioned, the short code, there is evidence showing that it was edited manually to match q's

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who stole the 2020 us election. completely unfounded theories but believed by significant numbers. qanon supporters were amongst the mob that stormed the us capitol last year. the movement has been fuelled by the online postings of a user who signs off as q. and last week, after nearly two years of silence, 0 posted again. gabriel gatehouse is international editor at bbc news and the presenter of the radio a documentary series the coming storm that looks at the rise of qanon. and dr irene pasquetto is assistant professor at the university of michigan school of information. irene, gabriel, welcome to the media show. hi, katie. hello. thank you. most welcome. gabriel, when we say 0 is back, how do we know this? what's happened 7 ok, so, 0 was this supposed figure who was supposed to be a government insider with high—level security clearance who was revealing secrets about this cabal of satanic paedophiles that had

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