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Move, but new york is state of at the same time. today you want new york city is a city of resilience, but you also said, all the city did before you became mayor was wallow in covid. dowel the city, in your words, was walloed in covid? >> we were engulfed by what covid did to us. it was imperative not only did we have the turmoil and drama, the first few months, responding to covid, watching people die and sick on ventilators, i know what it did to the spirit of new york. it was familiar to what we experienced with 9/11. 9/12, we got up, wolf. that's what we must do right now. that's what i'm...

>> look, what happened on 9/11, 9/12, we were all americans. we were all united as one. and that's the difference between then and now. right now, we have too many forces trying to accentuate the differences among us. instead of saying, hey, these are some of the shared values that we have as americans, and there's more that unites us than pulls us apart. but unfortunately we have way too many people and too many entities that really want to accentuate the negatives, not so much the negatives but just the differences, instead of what unites us as a nation. this nation always comes together in ...

First question, when you think of where we are as a nation today, reflect on the lessons learned from september 11, 2001, and how have they made us safer? >> well, first, thank you for having me on, alex. good to see you again. my prayers and thoughts go to all of the families, the rescue workers, our military, the 2,977 people that died on this day 20 years ago and the people who got sick afterwards trying to rescue them. we have an obligation to take care of these people. i would say, alex, three main lessons learned that i would mention now. there are more. one is we were in the jaws of hel...

Tragically we don't still share today. i think that's one of the sad things about the past decade is that sense of common purpose, that love of our freedom that united us as americans, not just on september 11th, but for days and weeks after that. kind of vanished. >> on 9/12, we had a feeling throughout the whole country of patriotism. we were all looking out for each other, black, white, latino, whatever. >> there was at the moment of the attacks and days afterward a joining of hearts and minds and will in america to get through this together. somehow that's begun to fray. i think that's sad...

Supposedly shouted and it came from a push back on the narrative. on the founding of the federation which is not speaking for the tea party, not a representative entity other than a group of like mined people who actually reject violence, bigotry, racism, and specifically formed it in that context. it's very clear, it is messy when you work with federations and groups with 2,500 groups in the patriots there will be people who are the nut jobs but we work hard and in the federation we work to denounce that and to renounce those people. >> and we're standing together as americans. this is what w...