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Raids and somewhere along the line i learned that mel was also a drummer, so we began playing some other things at that time. >> and mel, what used to happen when you showed up at political events and rallies and you started playing a fife and drum, what sort of effect would it have on people there? >> well, it really had a good effect. we've had an excellent tea party and 9/12 group here in northern colorado, and it was really very motivational, going both ways. because people got pretty pumped up and i speak for myself and i think john would agree that it's a reciprocal kind of motivation. >...

Between a couple of two different sexes or between a partnership like john and i have had, that that should be the deciding factor on it. >> the reason that i wanted to talk to you guys tonight is, a, because i think fife and drum bands are really cool. and b, because i just wonder if there's a bigger story to tell here about, i guess, about whether or not the tea party politics and the sort of idea that there are irreconcilable differences is a microcosm. whether what's going on between you two guys is what's going on in the movement in general. whether or not you can be flexible or whether o...

When you showed up at political events and rallies and you started playing a fife and drum, what sort of effect would it have on people there? >> well, it really had a good effect. we've had an excellent tea party and 9/12 group here in northern colorado, and it was really very motivational, going both ways. because people got pretty pumped up and i speak for myself and i think john would agree that it's a reciprocal kind of motivation. >> let me, mr. hilgenberg, let me stick with you for a moment. i know a little bit about the story about why you decided to break up as a duo. i think it has s...

Won't tolerate haters and if you have a sign we find offensive i ask the community around you to politely ask you to leave. if you won't leave i'm skagg them to take a picture of you and we will post it on the web site website and you can explain to your mother why you were holding that sign and we didn't have any problems. and that is what is beautiful about the community, again, the left is trying to smear these good people because that's all they had left. they are not violent. they are not any of the thing they are saying. >> we're not violent. the violence comes from, we were in the offic...

Thinking goes off tracks. talking about tea parties tonight, the 9.12 movement and more. mark, and matt, and yvonne are here from their groups. i want to go to that, start there. racism. racism. >> we don't put up with it. we don't want it in the naacp or our movement and if someone comes to our event we will tell them to leave. we have stood up against tea party express because they had a racist spokesman who they stood by and they have a history of standing by people who make racists comment. we will not stand with racists. >> we will get their side of the story in a second. i agree with you...