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Value you can add and you do not take credit for other people's works and that is why it is powerful. this is a big, massive, decentralized, beautiful chaos. that is not a problem, that's power. >> it is the free market? >> absolutely. when people, when you start taking credit for somebody else or you start trying to micromanage and not just reaching out to the other and saying, you buys are good at that and we will support you, you support you, and you are doing the same thing we're doing but we can all be together, and, whatever, once you lose that, then you don't have the free market anymor...

Supposedly shouted and it came from a push back on the narrative. on the founding of the federation which is not speaking for the tea party, not a representative entity other than a group of like mined people who actually reject violence, bigotry, racism, and specifically formed it in that context. it's very clear, it is messy when you work with federations and groups with 2,500 groups in the patriots there will be people who are the nut jobs but we work hard and in the federation we work to denounce that and to renounce those people. >> and we're standing together as americans. this is what w...

We worked out where i was a coordinator for the entire event although i was from a different organization and the 9.12 project was a sponsor of the event. >> we can talk about that as a model of how to tap into the power without stepping on people's toes and respecting their right to do what they are comfortable with. we organized the event and freedom works was set apart and built a massive coalition of groups and there are 1,000 groups i can't name that made it work that day. and we thought we would get 100,000 people and we were optimistic about that and we thought it was an arrogant assump...

A year and a half later, we have issues but it's growing pains. >> i was thinking this morning that the 9.12 project, i started the 9.12 project and i don't have anything to do with it and that project, you picked 9.twsm -- 9.12 to do the big rally in washington, dc, the moment i get blamed for and i didn't have anything to do with it. you guys were the ones that organized it but everyone came. >> right. >> a volunteer that suggested to us, we said we wanted to do sent and he said let's do 9.12 and i volunteered to help out and organize, because i like to organize, and i am an organizer.

Take. i would say that it's in the a question of hopeless. we're tired. we have been doing this and i have a full time job, and many of us do, and 9.12ers a volunteer organization we do this on our freedom so i wouldn't say hopeless. i would say we do get tired but there is gasoline on that fire that keeps us going. >> i think, i believe that as i look to the focus, the association i am associated with there is an extreme energy. that is what is happening. in a year and a half we went from emotional elements of tea party rally to making a difference, recruiting candidates and i got a woman run...