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Supposedly shouted and it came from a push back on the narrative. on the founding of the federation which is not speaking for the tea party, not a representative entity other than a group of like mined people who actually reject violence, bigotry, racism, and specifically formed it in that context. it's very clear, it is messy when you work with federations and groups with 2,500 groups in the patriots there will be people who are the nut jobs but we work hard and in the federation we work to denounce that and to renounce those people. >> and we're standing together as americans. this is what w...

Thinking goes off tracks. talking about tea parties tonight, the 9.12 movement and more. mark, and matt, and yvonne are here from their groups. i want to go to that, start there. racism. racism. >> we don't put up with it. we don't want it in the naacp or our movement and if someone comes to our event we will tell them to leave. we have stood up against tea party express because they had a racist spokesman who they stood by and they have a history of standing by people who make racists comment. we will not stand with racists. >> we will get their side of the story in a second. i agree with you...

>> how does freedom works work? >> we have volunteers across the country and some are tea party patriots some are with you, some are 9.12ers and the way to think about how organizations like mine and frankly all of these objections, we have to be of service to the activists. we have to figure out what they want and help them do that otherwise we're not adding value. and all of these relationships and this decentralized movement, you are talking hundreds of thousands of leaders. we come together on the treasure principle. are we adding value and helping each other get more done than by ourselve...

You think your best at, whatever value you can add and you do not take credit for other people's works and that is why it is powerful. this is a big, massive, decentralized, beautiful chaos. that is not a problem, that's power. >> it is the free market? >> absolutely. when people, when you start taking credit for somebody else or you start trying to micromanage and not just reaching out to the other and saying, you buys are good at that and we will support you, you support you, and you are doing the same thing we're doing but we can all be together, and, whatever, once you lose that, then you ...

Productive action for peoples to take. i would say that it's in the a question of hopeless. we're tired. we have been doing this and i have a full time job, and many of us do, and 9.12ers a volunteer organization we do this on our freedom so i wouldn't say hopeless. i would say we do get tired but there is gasoline on that fire that keeps us going. >> i think, i believe that as i look to the focus, the association i am associated with there is an extreme energy. that is what is happening. in a year and a half we went from emotional elements of tea party rally to making a difference, recruiting...