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9/12, 9/13, and the weeks thereafter, that's what we nied to never forget. that is what we need to remember now. america showed her best during the worst. the quiet city, so much of the horns of frustration and anger, quiet. the interdependence was evidenced shore to shore. you were all new yorkers. you all hurt for the lost. you helped the survivors and the first responders. you hunted the bad guys. anyone can kill. i was never impressed by 9/11. but what america was coming out of that event was something only she, only we are capable of. a singular resolve to fight what

Right now, the big star d. lemon. >> look how beautiful this is. can we show it? look, you were born here. i wasn't. i moved here. i still look at the skyline and, you know, driving on the fdr, what have you and expect to see the buildings around every turn and it is a reminder every day when you look that way it's not there but especially today and it's also a reminder how much we lost but a reminder, as well, on how we can come together no matter what as americans as we did after those horrible attacks. >> yeah, that's what i always thought 100%. beautifully said, my brother. i've always fel...

That are in our brain; 8:46, 9:03. the different times the planes hit or crashed, the different times the towers collapsed. and i think there's nothing comparative to this. i do think that the nation has, to karl's point, changed a great deal. but the question of what did we learn from 9/11 and where is the country -- we're not in that 9/12 mentality. and when it comes to counterterrorism after what we saw in afghanistan, there are a lot of questions about how we're going to go forward. obviously, we've gotten a lot better at counterterrorism, thwarting threats around the world. but after seei...

First question, when you think of where we are as a nation today, reflect on the lessons learned from september 11, 2001, and how have they made us safer? >> well, first, thank you for having me on, alex. good to see you again. my prayers and thoughts go to all of the families, the rescue workers, our military, the 2,977 people that died on this day 20 years ago and the people who got sick afterwards trying to rescue them. we have an obligation to take care of these people. i would say, alex, three main lessons learned that i would mention now. there are more. one is we were in the jaws of hel...

Don't believe them. and they drew the line on "frontline" this week to bush essentially generating this lack of trust and believing the government is lying to how easy it was to get so many people to believe that joe biden didn't win the election, that trump won, trump's still their president, and that we have 80 million americans who still haven't gotten vaccinated because they believe bill gates put a chip inside the vaccine. >> wow. >> and he's going to track us. the madness of this belief in the unreal and the untrue began back then after 9/11. the day after 9/11 on 9/12, bush had not met ...