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>> the surge has been through debate and tv commercials. the campaign of mitt romney, rick perry and ron paul key early states and nationally dwar the cain camp, which admits struggling to catch up organizationally, while he tried simultaneous to extend the hype speed in the poll no denying thed 9-9-9 plan has buzz. discount airlines borrowed it and urged people to buy cut-rate vacation flight now. after meeting with donald trump in new york today, michele bachmann trashed cain's 9-9-9 plan to alter the existing system and create 9% income tax and 9% national sales tax. >> you don't give congr...

Like it was swinging more in the direction of mitt romney's wheelhouse, but was too late to turn things around at that point for his candidacy. one of the things that come up is enthusiasm issue. look at poll numbers about. recent "wall street journal" poll shows herman cain top spot at 27%. mitt romney at 2 %. you can't talk about mitt romney at this stage in the game he basically has been stuck in that range for the last several months. >> well, herman cain is serious competitor. i know mitt romney respects and admirers mr. cain. they happen to share in common the fact that they both have si...

Someone once said consistency is genius. i think this is why i got so many arrows last night relative to 9-9-9. it is a well thought out, well developed plan. >> if you have with income tax one needle in your arm drawing out blood, why would you take three needles and stick them in, on the promise that they'll only take as much as they used to take? i think the danger is they drain you three times as fast. >> this plan is a very efficient way to collect the requisite revenues we need to run government. so i think it's a very good and efficient plan. if i could do anything to stop future politi...

Carl cameron. fox news. >> bret: to talk more is economist art laffer, former advisor to president ronald reagan and joins us from new york. thank you for being here. >> it's a pleasure. >> bret: are you a supporter of 9-9-9? >> i think 9-9-9 is a wonderful plan. a lot of candidates have good plan for tax reform but i love the 9-9-9 plan and i think it's a great first step. >> bret: were you consulted in the making of 9-9-9? >> i met with most of candidates and i met with herman cain. i did talk about his tax plans, yes. >> bret: why is it a good plan? >> the first place, what you want to do o...

Get help paying for what medicare doesn't... and save up to thousands of dollars. call this toll-free number now. martha: he has been climbing in the poll numbers. you know what that means when it comes to debate time. last night presidential hopeful herman cain and his 9-9-9 plan became the big target for the other candidates. >> when you take the 9-9-9 plan and turn it upside down, i think the devil is in the details. >> i think it's a catchy phrase. i thought it was the price of a pizza when i first heard about