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Numbers of representation in congress or less, we need to know how many u.s. citizens are in particular jurisdictions around the country. neil: so why wasn't there-- it was taken out. there used to be a staple in the census and it was taken out by the obama administration and i don't remember anybody saying boo then. the chief judge wants to say, yes, it was about districting. and it's not just the districting issue with you infrastructure. 980 billion dollars you're going to give around the country. neil: and something sinister afoot here, they want to prove or disprove that. >> especially wi...

Economics. >> yes, the economy can be exploited as a threat. that drove this standoff even after there was literally no dispute about the budget. here's why. democrats introduced budgets at over $1 trillion. the gop countered at $980 billion or so. one side compromise, the democrats just accepted the gop's numbers. that wasn't enough, though, for the more dangerous elements of the tea party, which is why they evoke one final villain. i'm talking about an enemy who confounded gotham because he had no practical goals, just anarchy, key for the battles ahead as washington was slow to appreciate h...

All right, christine. thanks very much. let's get some more analysis from the left and from the right. chris, a lot of folks are saying, what's wrong with negotiating these two issues, the government shutdown and raising the nation's debt ceiling? whenever there has been a divided government in the past and a stalemate, they get together, sit down, smart guys come in the room or whatever and they work it out. the president is saying no negotiations. go ahead and explain. a lot of people still are confused when they hear the republicans want to negotiate, the democrats don't. >> well, there's n...

We agreed to $980 billion, $70 billion less than what my caucus voted for and agreed to. don't talk about his lifeline. talk about mine. >> reporter: you have used some pretty explosive terms to talk about the so-called tea party, called them tea party anarchists, whackists, and some liberals even say that's going too far. are you stirring the pot with language like that? >> anarchist, why wouldn't i use the term anarchy? that's what they are, they're anarchists. they don't believe in government on any level. what else did i call them? >> reporter: the weird caucus. >> well that's probably a l...

The government has shut down. he is so far in. he needs a life line in order to save face, to agree. you're not giving him one inch. >> how about my life line? we agreed to $980 billion, $70 billion less than what my caucus voted for, agreed to. don't talk about his life line. talk about mine. that was really hard to do with my caucus. >> it seems in my conversations with republicans, i heard it from the speaker him at the white house with the president, they're moving away from obama care. to the debt ceiling fight. at least on the debt ceiling, talking about trying to revive -- >> they're ma...