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Years. congressman, this is what you do. you read the budgets. is that true? or is that a falsehood? >> so completely false. they got a columnist that cooked the book toss give them that number. the president has increased spending by a fifth from where it historically has been. he gave us a gusher of new spending and a $4.5 trillion increase in the debt since he has taken office. sean, the budget he gave us just this year, the trillion-dollar deficit, proposes to increase spending by $1.5 trillion and a tax increase, with a $40 million lower average a year. so this is a spending binge we have...

Years. congressman, this is what you do. you read the budgets. is that true? or is that a falsehood? >> so completely false. they got a columnist that cooked the book toss give them that number. the president has increased spending by a fifth from where it historically has been. he gave us a gusher of new spending and a $4.5 trillion increase in the debt since he has taken office. sean, the budget he gave us just this year, the trillion-dollar deficit, proposes to increase spending by $1.5 trillion and a tax increase, with a $40 million lower average a year. so this is a spending binge we have...