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Parallel for two years. so his idea of a lickety-split, you know, apprentice-type reality hour, it doesn't squ with the time thinking they have over the time reference they make over in north korea. they could be tricking him into that chair and letting him sit there for months and years even. so that's what i'm afraid of, that we will be humiliated as a country and nothing will get done. >> because you mentioned "the apprentice," i'm duty-bound to next ask you about pardons. how the notion of pardons has changed from presidents and presidencies past. we've noted many times over the past 24 ho...

Parallel for two years. so his idea of a lickety-split, you know, apprentice-type reality hour, it doesn't square with the time thinking they have over the time reference they make over in north korea. they could be tricking him into that chair and letting him sit there for months and years even. so that's what i'm afraid of, that we will be humiliated as a country and nothing will get done. >> because you mentioned "the apprentice," i'm duty-bound to next ask you about pardons. how the notions of pardons has changed from presidents and presidencies past. we've noted many times over the past 2...

I really think that if you look at north korean tactics going back to the korean war itself, which is officially of course the president points out has never really ended, two years beginning in the summer of -- i think it was july of '51, they talked in panmunjom on the 38th parallel for two years. so his idea of a lickety-split, you know, apprentice-type reality hour, it doesn't square with the time thinking they have over the time reference they make over in north korea. they could be tricking him into that chair and letting him sit there for months and years even. so that's what i'm afraid...