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Of those things will be harder to do if we weaponize the crazy argument that those are all steps toward getting rid of all guns. you know, in a world that was as peaceful as i'd like it to be, nobody would have a gun. that's not our world. our culture is steeped in guns. i love the idea of setting up a north star, a load star but the load star should not be something that is so out of reach that these kids who are so passionate will simply become disillusioned. i don't want them to reach for something that's impossible and i don't want them to buy the idea if personal liberty to many people in...

Guns. maybe it was a good idea. i reject it. what is wrong with that as a north star? >> i think it's the wrong north star. i mean, i'm in favor of every one of the things that anna lists. universal background checks. getting rid of weapons on our streets. all of those are great but all of those things will be harder to do if we weaponize the crazy argument that those are all steps toward getting rid of all guns. you know, in a world that was as peaceful as i'd like it to be, nobody would have a gun. that's not our world. our culture is steeped in guns. i love the idea of setting up a north st...