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Not only do they have this incredible arsenal of money behind them, the americans for prosperity type groups, but they can call on their volunteers, their staffers, bus people in from out of the state. and they can protest and organize for the opponents, as well. >> how identical is the a.l.e.c. language we're seeing, especially in michigan? >> it is pretty much the same thing. they have to change the wording a little bit to avoid looking like it was a cut and paste job, but in the -- what they're trying to accomplish, we're looking at the same objective here. >> here's more from governor rick...

From out of the state. and they can protest and organize for the opponents, as well. >> how identical is the a.l.e.c. language we're seeing, especially in michigan? >> it is pretty much the same thing. they have to change the wording a little bit to avoid looking like it was a cut and paste job, but in the -- what they're trying to accomplish, we're looking at the same objective here. >> here's more from governor rick schneider on all of this. >> this is about being pro workers, giving workers the choice. this should encourage unions to be more responsive to workers in terms of saying they nee...

Plan. mitt romney endorsed them. the difference is ryan uses them for cuts for people at the top and obama uses them to close the prescription drug doughnut hole for prescriptions. under romney and ryan they'd go back to doing that. >> okay, quickly michael, why would a guy say i pay 13% but not release the returns? >> well, because he doesn't feel he has to release the returns. he feels he's put out two -- he's going to put out two years and that's enough. he went back and looked at it. he's given us a number. and that 13% whatever it is, it represents investment income. maybe just general in...

Has savings and efficiencies and cuts waste and paul ryan had those in his plan. mitt romney endorsed them. the difference is that ryan uses them for tax cuts for people at the top and obama used them to close the prescription drug donut hole for medicare recipients so they don't pay 100% of their drugs between 2,000 and $5,000. under romney and ryan, they go back to doing that. >> michael, why would a guy say i pay 13%, but not release the retur returns? >> because he doesn't feel he has to release the returns. he feels he's put out two years and that's enough. he went back, looked at it. he'...

Doesn't cut $716 billion in medicare benefits. it cut savings and -- it has savings and efficiencies and cuts waste. and paul ryan had those in his plan. mitt romney endorsed them. the difference is ryan uses them for cuts for people at the top and obama uses them to close the prescription drug doughnut hole for prescriptions. under romney and ryan they'd go back to doing that. >> okay, quickly michael, why would a guy say i pay 13% but not release the returns? >> well, because he doesn't feel he has to release the returns. he feels he's put out two -- he's going to put out two years and that'...