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Donald trump. because in the end, he does have a wife and children and as we heard from mr. friedman in court, the judge said, do you know what your lawyer has been able to pull off for you and mr. friedman said i do and i understand and appreciate it and you could see michael cohen do that as well. >> he said i greatly understand that and appreciate it because there is a huge difference between potentially 25 years in jail and five years probation and no jail time. that is a significant development. rebecca burg, give us your analysis of what we're learning over past few minutes. >> i think t...

Said it's premature to call it a smoking gun but i said it gave us a pretty good preview of a smoking gun and also gave us a road map of how to find that smoking gun there are two parts to. this one part are the clear but medium-sized crimes that are really much more provable now for a prosecutor to go after cohen and put pressure on him. so that includes now with this information a stronger claim of bank fraud for how he set up this essential consultants. and it also sets up questions of misrepresentation and fraud under new york law, wire fraud, failure to register as a lobbyist under the lo...

Little beyond within the republican party. people are looking at this race for imlplications for 2018. and for democrats, this is a must-win. if they lose this governor's seat, that would leave them with just -- that would be very problematic with them. >> in a state hillary clinton took by 5%. to you, nathan, gillespie has adopted the trump playbook on many of these, especially cultural issues, when you look at immigration and some of the ads about ms-13, even though his team says that's not our strategy or platform. is this a road map big picture for republicans if he can win. >> i think gil...

Lose his status? are we going to take down -- excuse me. are we going to take down -- are we going to take down statues to george washington? how about thomas jefferson? what do you think of thomas jefferson? do you like him? okay, good. are we going to take down the statue? because he was a major slave owner. so it's fine. you are changing history. you're changing culture. >> doug? >> look, it was nauseating to have to listen to that. i spoke to the mayor of new orleans. he's dealing with the flood crisis right now and he told me the same guys, all of these neo-nazi people were there when he ...

And the information which we share, it is not appropriate for me to comment publicly on any of that, and so on this topic, as well as other topics, i don't feel it is appropriate to characterize discussions, conversations with the president. >> for our viewers, that is obviously not john mccain. that's director of intelligence dan coats. ken, we're learning a whole lot more than we knew before. just cut through the fat for us because we've had a lot of testimonies, and sometimes all of this information can seem to jumble into one big blob. >> so bottom li, john brennan gave us a road map for h...