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Have had -- justified? >> that the intelligence agencies told donald trump at a meeting with him last friday at trump tower. that is understandable too. jim clapper is leaving after 51 years in the business. >> right. >> john brennan, he is leaving because he is going to be replaced by mike pompeo. then you had admiral rogers there so they don't know when they get a chance to sit with the principal, the president-elect of the united states and they got that chance last friday. they don't know if he is reading the daily intelligence briefing reports that are afforded him. they don't know whethe...

>> why would buzzfeed and cnn go with this? >> first of all, what is it that we are talking about? it's basically a collection of whispers and rumors. >> and, by the way, we are not even going to come close to what they put out there as far as -- >> correct. >> -- the allegations. what it is is an absolute bombshell and a molotov cocktail thrown on january 11th with no verification. >> but to david's point it's been out there for several months. we have all heard elements about it, gossip about it dating back to the fall. >> why do you publish that? why did cnn put it out? >> cnn, i think, had...