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Washington under control, i think the principle one would not be term limits. there are term limits in a lot of states. you haven't seen a whole lot of change in the size and scale of government in those states that have term limits. what i did when i was in the united states senate was vote for term limits, which i d but i also when we failed went back to the republican caucus where i actually could do something and worked with senator john kyle from arizona and we instituted term limits on committee chair men and leadership in the united states senate republican caucus. that's something we c...

Politicians for for them instead of the people who elected them. that's the good that can come from. >> what about the cronyism in government? here's the president, has big bundlers -- >> wrong. >> so this is president obama. >> yes. >> you are saying president obama, the big bundlers get access and then they get kickbacks, it's called kickbacks for the money. >> it amounts to legal bribery. >> all the politicians are. and what i would like to see happen, and i promoted a constitutional amendment, the longest running congressmen wrote this, and when i have strong bipartisan support i will intr...

Politicians for for them instead of the people who elected them. that's the good that can come from. >> what about the cronyism in government? here's the president, has big bundlers -- >> wrong. >> so this is president obama. >> yes. >> you are saying president obama, the big bundlers get access and then they get kickbacks, it's called kickbacks for the money. >> it amounts to legal bribery. >> all the politicians are. and what i would like to see happen, and i promoted a constitutional amendment, the longest running congressmen wrote this, and when i have strong bipartisan support i will intr...

We have talked before, this thing is much big than i think the world has every experienced before because this has been going on for 40 years essentially and the bubble is very big and the dollars overseas, probably $7 trillion, $8 trillion overseas and how -- how they and where they go is a big issue. but i do know that it's coming to an end. we're in transition. we need to reform. we need to show how money is the big deal and how it influences and get this auction turned off because we have too much to lose if we don't do something. >> it's insane. i would -- i would be grateful if you would...

They are not. they're honorable people. however, when you sit around and spend after half of your day asking people for money and their opinions while they're asking them for money about legislation, there's absolutely no way you can separate those two issues. you cannot separate the money from politics. and why in god's name would they? the supreme court has made it remarkly clear, in decision after decision after decision, that money is speech under the first amendment. and the only way -- i don't care -- it doesn't matter what the legislation is, the court -- the supreme court is never goin...