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Forward. yet we remain cautiously optimistic. >> so what, given the fact that you have been an activist on this for so long, and it took many, many years for charges to be filed, what, in your experience, took so long? >> several things. we are dealing with a population, young black women and girls who historically have not been very credible witnesses in the public eye as it relates to sexual crimes. we are also dealing with someone who has a massive tremendous amount of power and celebrity status. and we have social apathy when it comes to sexual violence in general. so i believe the combina...

Applau applause, let's bring in our lead-off panel. ned price, former senior director on the national security counsel. former u.s. attorney joyce vance who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor and at aforementioned, tom hamburger, because it's your reporting we're discussing here tonight, i'd like you to begin and talk about the setting of this meeting at this club not far from here in midtown manhattan, why it matters, why it could be foundational. >> brian, it was, as you described it, an unusual meeting at an unusual place. at the height of the 2016 presidential campaign. august 2nd, pau...

September of last year, and we quote, i'm the guy who stops the leaks. i'm the guy who protects the president and the family. i'm the guy who would take a bullet for the president. so with us tonight, the a forementioned emily jane fox, feature reporter for vanity fair. bureau chief for the "washington post," and jill cohen, white house reporter for the associated press. welcome to you all, and emily, i would like to begin with you. what was it like there today? i have a triple question for you. what was it like there today? do you think we'll hear from him in a congressional hearing as early ...

And again for perspective, here's what cohen told our next guest, emily jane fox, in september of last year, and we quote, i'm the guy who stops the leaks. i'm the guy who protects the president and the family. i'm the guy who would take a bullet for the president. so with us tonight, the a forementioned emily jane fox, feature reporter for vanity fair. bureau chief for the "washington post," and jill cohen, white house reporter for the associated press. welcome to you all, and emily, i would like to begin with you. what was it like there today? i have a triple question for you. what was it li...

United states attorney's office for the district of columbia to consider possible perjury charges if any and all of those other individuals testified falsely the way himichael cohen did. >> tom, we just heard from congressman eric swalwell a few moments ago who indicated that they were, in fact, going back over some of the testimony that was given to the house committee. how concerned should some of the aforementioned be? the sessions, the bannon, the stone, how concerned should they be about lying to congress? >> it's always a concern because it's a crime. even if you're not sworn before cong...