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Of reality of basically saying that there was nothing inappropriate, he did nothing wrong, that this is a witch hunt and so forth. so to see that has been both unbelievable and saddening and disheartening all at once. >> so you're saying that you're now hearing them try to defend him on the substance because at first, what republicans were doing when they weren't just running away from cameras was saying yeah, it might be bad but it's not impeachable so you're saying now when you talk with republicans they're defending the substance of this strong arm of ukraine? >> yeah, it may just be the on...

Woe don't have a timetable. what have you learned thabt and the conditions set here. >> there's an aggress i free week expectation. that all violence will cease in eastern ukraine. before the end of this year. really there was much old much new in this summit. the old, what was being suggested prisoner exchanges. demining. and possibly elections in held areas in the months ahead. what was new the two men putin and russia and ukraine. zelensky turning up in a rental and putin coming in in a black armored limousine. the differences by the french and german leaders after long negotiations. an hou...

And hi drinking. >> what i have is many memories and laughing, but also many aggres so it's not as if it was all there the good and the bad. but there was definitely some >> that's contaddict by others dan murphy said and i'm quoting events nor did i see him act aggressive

Came on. he said, we feel -- i'm pair a fragz. we feel no need to take up what the senate promised. you know, we're doing our own thing. and i think all indications are they may well try to pass a more aggress i aggressive legal immigration bill to stake their ground. think that's the fundamental flaw in the deal that chuck schumer cut, which is this assumption that just becauselet he's good to his word. you have house republicans who are considerably more conservative than their senate republican colleagues. so i just think even if it gets through the senate, this face as very uncertain futur...

The ideological fight? as people have said before, you can't implement policies that alienate muslims. it's unfair to the many good muslims in the world but also galvanizes the aggress of some people who are willing to become terrorists. it's a dangerous thing to do. >> sebastian, i followed you for years. you have made this case time and again about winning the peace. the u.s. military might have the allies and the joint forces, incontrovertible evidence they will win eventually on the ground, but then what? what do people learn in this documentary about the answer to that question? >> well, ...