Where that divide lies, how that tension gets resolved. >> dana: do you think that the supreme court ruled on behalf of proponents of what would be called religious liberty and thatument? >> jamesldly so. it's not as much as a big policy call as it was limited by the facts. the facts of the case included missio the government, was heavy-handed, they were dismissive of religious beliefs from the get go. they were somewhat hypocritical. they ruled in favor of aaker who refused to have antigay slurs on his cak you are being disrespecttive. you want to cak a eat it, too. we don't allow governments...