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Exceeding to some sort of immigration reform, but they don't want to go the full monty. you see this even among republican elites. in the same politico article you have karl rove and others quoted saying we need to do something on immigration. we should do partial measures. we shouldn't go all the way to amnesty, and i think that they're reacting to a lot of blowback that they've gotten from their base as they've talked about the need to go out and make immigration reform something that they just set off the table. >> that quote is factually wrong. what this person thinks is if we have immigra...

Many of them have children and grandchildren born in this country, have contributed -- continued contributing to this economy, and giving them the opportunity to get in the back of the line for possible citizenship down the line, that's considered amnesty, but aattack amnesty, let's talk about that and celebrate. let's remove amnesty for a bit from the discussion, because it will never be amnesty. you're not going to have a blanket one day to the next situation where 11 million people will all of a sudden get their citizenship papers in the mail. it's not that way. the options are, two, do you...